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		<title>Comment on The Layers of Intelligent Design by Creation chronology &#8211; my reading of Genesis &#124; Carpe Cakem!</title>
		<link>http://taliesan.wordpress.com/2009/11/04/the-layers-of-intelligent-design/#comment-4250</link>
		<dc:creator>Creation chronology &#8211; my reading of Genesis &#124; Carpe Cakem!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 23:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] reinforce some of these ideas, I draw your attention to this piece written recently by Tim at Taliesan. Here I&#8217;ve unashamedly pasted the whole thing: The [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Government workers by Tim</title>
		<link>http://taliesan.wordpress.com/2009/10/31/government-workers/#comment-4248</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,
You&#039;re a gentleman and a discerning scholar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,<br />
You&#8217;re a gentleman and a discerning scholar.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Government workers by Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

If you would quit saying everything so well you might get a few comments. :-)

Actually, I just wanted to let you know I appreciate what your saying even if I rarely comment.

Godspeed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>If you would quit saying everything so well you might get a few comments. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Actually, I just wanted to let you know I appreciate what your saying even if I rarely comment.</p>
<p>Godspeed!</p>
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		<title>Comment on I contain all Christendom by Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha!  That&#039;s my weekend pattern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha!  That&#8217;s my weekend pattern.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I contain all Christendom by Mairnéalach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mairnéalach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 04:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh. I do you one better. I wake up a pagan every day and end up a Lutheran. Therefore, I contain all humanity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh. I do you one better. I wake up a pagan every day and end up a Lutheran. Therefore, I contain all humanity.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Friday&#8217;s Child, W. H. Auden by &#8220;And you and I are free&#8230;&#8221; &#124; The Strathmore LitSpace</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;And you and I are free&#8230;&#8221; &#124; The Strathmore LitSpace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Ministry of discernment&#8221;:  it&#8217;s not a bug, it&#8217;s a feature by truthslayer</title>
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		<dc:creator>truthslayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slander and outrageous claims have a place in ministry...what would we do without discernmentalist ministries otherwise...how would they fill their time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slander and outrageous claims have a place in ministry&#8230;what would we do without discernmentalist ministries otherwise&#8230;how would they fill their time?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Grace versus Karma, by Bono by Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t disagree, Matt.   Most believers will never wrestle with theories of atonement precisely because their notion of grace matches Bono.   When God just decides to be nice one day, there is nothing to understand.   Especially, Him.   

But nothing could be worse for them than law and fundamentalism.  I realize in some circles &quot;theories of atonement&quot; conjures a tone of law, but for me, just the opposite.   I&#039;m thinking more of what Dorothy Sayers meant in her word &quot;drama&quot;:  nothing to do with the crushing weight of law, all to do with the pageantry of a great dance, in which we find ourselves whirled about then deposited in the winner&#039;s box.  

The richer the grace, the more complex it diagrams.  Not the casuistry of a technical manual, but the curves within curves of a gavotte.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t disagree, Matt.   Most believers will never wrestle with theories of atonement precisely because their notion of grace matches Bono.   When God just decides to be nice one day, there is nothing to understand.   Especially, Him.   </p>
<p>But nothing could be worse for them than law and fundamentalism.  I realize in some circles &#8220;theories of atonement&#8221; conjures a tone of law, but for me, just the opposite.   I&#8217;m thinking more of what Dorothy Sayers meant in her word &#8220;drama&#8221;:  nothing to do with the crushing weight of law, all to do with the pageantry of a great dance, in which we find ourselves whirled about then deposited in the winner&#8217;s box.  </p>
<p>The richer the grace, the more complex it diagrams.  Not the casuistry of a technical manual, but the curves within curves of a gavotte.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Grace versus Karma, by Bono by Matt J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 16:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha! When I saw the title of your post, I thought, &quot;Oh, there&#039;s that clever Bono quote again.&quot; I mean, I enjoy U2 as much as the next guy, but Bono just gets way too much lovin&#039; in some circles lately, it&#039;s ridiculous.

So I was refreshed to see your comments afterwards. Good stuff.

&quot;Notice that theories of atonement become meaningless to the degree grace is understood like this.&quot; I know a lot of folks who will likely NEVER grapple with a &quot;theory of the atonement&quot; their entire Christian walk. For them, I&#039;d rather feed them Bono&#039;s line than feed them a heavy dose of law and fundamentalism. They already get enough of that already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! When I saw the title of your post, I thought, &#8220;Oh, there&#8217;s that clever Bono quote again.&#8221; I mean, I enjoy U2 as much as the next guy, but Bono just gets way too much lovin&#8217; in some circles lately, it&#8217;s ridiculous.</p>
<p>So I was refreshed to see your comments afterwards. Good stuff.</p>
<p>&#8220;Notice that theories of atonement become meaningless to the degree grace is understood like this.&#8221; I know a lot of folks who will likely NEVER grapple with a &#8220;theory of the atonement&#8221; their entire Christian walk. For them, I&#8217;d rather feed them Bono&#8217;s line than feed them a heavy dose of law and fundamentalism. They already get enough of that already.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Grace versus Karma, by Bono by Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Helpful text, thanks.  I think the key is &quot;...a marvelous murder had to happen...&quot; -- in the OT, a lamb must die, in the New, a Lamb.  Only through His own death -- not by a whim -- is karma transferred.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helpful text, thanks.  I think the key is &#8220;&#8230;a marvelous murder had to happen&#8230;&#8221; &#8212; in the OT, a lamb must die, in the New, a Lamb.  Only through His own death &#8212; not by a whim &#8212; is karma transferred.</p>
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